Wednesday 11 April 2012

Street football and Police Newsletter


Hi everyone,

Two updates for tonight's post. The first is the April Police Newsletter which you can read by clicking here

I've also had a recent mail  from one of the estate's residents asking if I would post about the inconvenience and annoyance that can be caused when children use a house wall to play football against. On this occasion the children in question did not live at the house they were kicking their ball against and refused to move away when asked to stop because of the noise and disruption being caused.


It's obviously causing some distress to those having to live with this annoyance and I wanted to bring this to people's attention. As always, comments are invited and if you have any feel free to reply.

That's it for tonight,

Abby

25 comments:

  1. Ball games
    22. No person shall play ball games outside a designated area for playing ball games in such a manner:
    (a) as to exclude persons not playing ball games from use of that part;
    (b) as to cause danger or give reasonable grounds for annoyance to any other person in the ground; or
    (c) which is likely to cause damage to any tree, shrub or plant in the ground.
    23. It is an offence for any person using a designated area for playing ball games to break any of the rules set out in Schedule 2 and conspicuously displayed on a sign in the designated area when asked by any person to desist from breaking those rules.


    http://www.chorley.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=264&p=0

    ReplyDelete
  2. kids playing football in the street is a bit like speeding in a car. it's ok for you (your kids to do it) but not anybody elses kids.

    under what circumstances is it ever Ok for a group of them to kick a ball at a wall and allow it to hit a car, over and over again. The car wasn't theres or any of there parents, it was mine. what kind of thinking goes on in there heads when a ball is bouncing off the car and they carry on regardless?

    i know who the kids are and where they live, they are all part of the estate. they are not yet teenagers but when they are challenged there parents are outraged that they are told to clear off.

    i have checked with the police and i am perfectly entitled to take a photo of them if it happens again so that i can report the problem. if they dont live on the estate they have zero right to kick a ball around here. but it shouldn't have to come to that and as a group of generally speaking, pleasant, sensible people we have for neighbours on our estate (don't get me onto the party at easter) it is not unreasonable to think we can expect a bit more common and consideration for each other.

    i think we all live in croston for a reason,and part of this is that its a nice place for kids to grow up. if we want petty neighbour fights with each other we can go and live in those places where this happens in manchester or liverpool or preston or glasgow etc (i don't want to be accused of being town-ist it's an example) but we seriously need to ask our kids to switch there brains on.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Hi another topic thats top of my list !!!, we have had lots of problems with children kicking a football up against the side if a nearby house and because we live in a square the sound echo's and is very loud. My understanding is that the leasehold agreement on the houses on our estate states that there should be no ball games played on the roads or paths. I am not against children playing outside in the fresh air , but constsnt screaming and balls bouncing off walls is unacceptable . Ken

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Ive had this problem for ages, you tell the same kids at six o'clock and at half past tell the same kids again, why don't the kick the ball at their own houses, they darn t, their parents wont put up with it, they send them away to annoy others .........

      Delete
  4. Hi, as your local PCSO I felt I should comment. There is legislation about playing football in the street but it only becomes an offence if the game is preventing free passage and they refuse to allow them through when requested. However, if particular youths are causing a problem, I am more than willing to speak to them in the presence of their parents and ask for some consideration to neighbours. Anti Social Behaviour is not acceptable, and anyone with any issues can contact me on 01257 246103 or on the new non emergency phone number 101.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Ive been plagued with kids playing football in front of my house for a long time and sometimes they kick their ball directly at my front door, I still have a football impresssion on my front window which no matter how much I try to remove it remains impregnated on the glass. They kick their ball at the side of my house, and kids often bounce the ball onto my wall near my ktchen window, and they think it is funny when asked to stop doing this. It drives me mad, it drives my dog even madder and quite frankly I am sick of this unsociable behaviour. I'm sure their parents wouldnt like to put up with this nuisance in front of their own property.

    ReplyDelete
  6. police newsletter, what a load of rubbish, Ive spent every night this week telling the same kids to stop playing football in the street, tonight the kid went to play football in his own home, 2 minuets later back on the street, i am sick and tired of it, if the police want to see the football future, tell them to come between 4 and 6 at night,instead of hanging around eccleston, or between 8 and 9 am, i couldn't believe it the other day ........ ime sick of it ........

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Have you reported this issue to the police? How do you expect us to know about it or do anything about it if you do not inform us?

      Delete
  7. Totally Agree.
    I live on Coronation Court... They think its a playing field... They move the bins and use them as goal posts. and leave them out and not return the bins. When you confront them you get verbal abuse. (and thats the parents!!!)

    Bikes, gocarts, toys are left all over the court yard so when you drive into the court you hav to dodge stranded items left out all night.

    Now its summer time.,... its waterbomb time. They use my watertap at the front of my house and lots of exploded balloons all over the front of my house and court yard. I have told them many times but all i get it water bombs thrown at my front door.

    Maybe the PCSO would like to visit

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I would love to visit but unless you tell me at the time of an incident, how do I know if there are any issues?Please ring 101 to leave a message for me in future.

      Delete
  8. they had lets destroy the kerbs with scooters time a few weeks ago, they slam the scooter into the joints of the kerbs, it pleases them ....... check them out

    ReplyDelete
  9. I totally understand the frustration, and also it isn't safe to play football in the street, especially with the way some of the residents speed round the estate!

    My kids have been told not to play on the street (even despite protestations that the grass is too long on the field) and have been warned that they'll get they backsides slapped if they do! feel free to let me know if it is mine (no 37)

    ReplyDelete
  10. Ide just like to say that i think that this street football problem has hit an all new lifetime low, i was standing in my garden the other night when i heard a resident simply asking the boys to play down the park because the noise drives him "nuts" they ran to their parents claiming he was shouting and swearing at them, when one of the boys said "no he didn't" she then argued the point that she also played football in the street with them and what was he going to do about it ?, this neighborhood for me has hit a new all time low, ime thinking of moving away from here, if you want my name and address i will provide it ....

    thank you

    mrs M

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Please contact me on the police national number 101 and leave a message for 7932 maria fetherstone.

      Delete
  11. To be honest, I think kids would stop playing football on the streets if the grass at the park is cut. Also if the people asked nicely they might get good results instead of just shouting at them. Its all part of growing up and people shouldn't be told off for a game of football if they are careful.

    ReplyDelete
  12. i know who the kids are and where they live, they are all part of the estate. they are not yet teenagers but when they are challenged there parents are outraged that they are told to clear off.

    we have had lots of problems with children kicking a football up against the side if a nearby house and because we live in a square the sound echo's and is very loud.

    Ive had this problem for ages, you tell the same kids at six o'clock and at half past tell the same kids again,

    Anti Social Behaviour is not acceptable, and anyone with any issues can contact me

    and they think it is funny when asked to stop doing this

    My kids have been told not to play on the street (even despite protestations that the grass is too long on the field)


    Ime sorry but someones not read this blog or seen their kids ignore residents even when asked to stop nicely.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Please contact me to discuss this issue on 101 the national police number and leave a message for 7932 maria fetherstone.

      Delete
    2. you went through the trouble of typing a letter and posting it to the residents, they still play football in the street every night, theve took no notice, nice try maria .

      Delete
  13. Can we remember that not all children are the devil incarnate as some people would believe reading these comments. We are all very aware that there are a small number of young people who are causing difficulties on this estate but it seems that all children are now being tarred with the same brush. My children are younger than this group and are also intimidated by them but they are also frightened to go to the park because adults are having a go at them. Please can we try and be reasonable and remember that this is an estate built for families that should be a safe and pleasant place for us all to live in.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I am in complete agreement. I also think that there should be more of an open dialogue between all the neighbours - if there is a problem, find out who the parents are and talk to them. If it were my child who was making someone's life so miserable as it would appear some people's are here on this estate, I would be mortified and would certainly deal with the situation. Telling a child off that isn't yours can be counter-productive as the message that the child takes home is not always what has happened, plus children often respond badly to being told off by someone unknown to them. Why not talk directly to the parents instead?

      I personally love that we live somewhere where children are able to play in a safe environment, out in the street, as I used to when I was little. How many places can you say about that nowadays? It just needs managing better between the adults, so that these kids don't lose this rare privilege. And maybe, just have a little thought about when you were a kid - playing with your friends, being sociable, having fun - this helps shape them as people. Damaging property and upsetting people is unacceptable - but it is a small number of children doing this - find out who is responsible for those kids and talk to those parents. We live in a great place, it wouldn't be too difficult to keep it that way.

      Delete
    2. Couldn't agree more. My kids (who are not much younger) feel very intimidated by some of the group you are talking about, to the point that they make excuses not to play out. I have had to address some of the issues through school as the intimidating behaviour even carried on off the estate! If this is how the kids behave I think it most unlikely that open dialogue with the parents will result in anything but a slanging match.

      Delete
  14. talk to the parents ? its them that tell the kids to play football in the street .

    ReplyDelete
  15. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  16. In these instances the parents are usually not approachable and tslking direct to the parents can provoke grudges - I'm guessing that's why most of these comments are 'anonymous'

    I would agree that not all kids are bad, however some are determined to do whatever the hell they like.

    I had a 'to do' with a couple of these notorious kids the week before I went away. They were sat in a tree by the park (the week after the letter asking them not to)throwing sweet wrappers onto the grass. I took my dogs onto the field as we were about to go on a 7 hour drive. My female dog crouched to wee, and one kids shouted 'oi! pick ur sh?t up!' I asked what he meant he said 'ur stupid dogs just done a big sh?t, PICK IT UP NOW!'

    I told them she is a girl and she'd only wee'd, that I ALWAYS pick up after my dogs, as well as half the rubbish/sweet wrappers they leave strewned around and if they come out of the tree and show me what they want me to pick up I will do it, but there's nothing there.

    He said if I didn't 'do it' he would 'tell on me', so I repeated she'd not done a poo, and walked off.

    Lo and behold I come back from holiday to a letter from the Police regarding reported dog fouling and the fine involved - whether this was to everyone or just us I don't know. But obviously now we are being vindictively accused of something that we don't do

    My kids are slightly older, but are still imtimidated by this group of children following incidents both on the estate and at school, and often will not go out to play if they see these kids are out.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Gina, we all got that letter, if they put goal posts up, marked the pitch out and put spectator stands up in the park,and give oranges at half time, theyd still moan and want to play football in the street, any excuse is better than nowt.

    ReplyDelete